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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 23, 2012 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

These are my favorite examples, in chronological order since I can't figure out which one I'd place first. And they're not just good bluesy music--they also have a raw, earthy edge to them:

Good Morning Little Schoolgirl from Avalon Ballroom 9-16-66:
http://archive.org/details/gd1966-09-16.sbd.davenport.95970.flac16

The Same Thing from Fillmore Auditorium 11-19-66:
http://archive.org/details/gd1966-11-19.sbd.miller.94106.sbeok.flac16

Death Don't Have No Mercy from Avalon Ballroom 4-6-69:
http://archive.org/details/gd69-04-06.sbd.fm.cotsman.9492.sbeok.shnf

New Speedway Boogie > Nobody's Fault But Mine Jam > New Speedway Boogie from Merramec Community College 5-14-70:
http://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-14.sbd.warner-evans.28716.sbeok.flac16

What are yours?

This post was modified by Lou Davenport on 2012-03-23 20:19:25

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Poster: Dupenhagen Moonbat Date: Mar 23, 2012 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Lossy Blasphemer

Lou,

At risk of my forever being known as the Blasphemer Against Only Lossy (Baol), I can only bemoan the fact that these soundboards have had the life sucked out of them. After all, isn't this what happens with most waist-up decapitations?

Rick

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 23, 2012 5:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lossy Blasphemer

Don't get me wrong--I listen to these off FLACs downloaded from LL, bt.etree, or WT. I post the links to the lossy streams for the convenience of window shoppers.

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Poster: Dupenhagen Moonbat Date: Mar 23, 2012 6:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lossy Blasphemer

Yea, but thank goodness for auds. Btw, have you tuned in to me Back in FLAC Streamer p2p radio? I plan to feature a lot of AGP...wink wink nod nod

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 24, 2012 6:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lossy Blasphemer

don't flatter yourself, you are nothing more than a troll drifter from the noise pollution forum

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Mar 23, 2012 5:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

I was thinking of this same topic tonight, but would especially like pointers to your favorite Jerry leads on traditional blues numbers.

Two of my own favorite Garcia-plays-the-blues moments aren't availble here but are quite wonderful:

Nobody's Fault But Mine
1973-12-19 Tampa, FL
Dick's Picks 1

and

Drop Down Mama
David and the Dorks (Jerry, Phil, Mickey and David Crosby at the Matrix)
1970-12-15
Googling the band name above will find a copy. Maybe this doesn't count since it isn't technically the Dead but Jerry's exquisite (and the whole show is worth having).


This post was modified by Dhamma1 on 2012-03-24 00:51:14

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 23, 2012 8:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Any of the above tracks have great Jerry leads, including Cliff's Smokestack. Jerry's work on that Death Don't Have No Mercy is just amazing, though very different than his approach to blues in 1973.

If you're up for his earlier blues sound, you could try a tour of other 1969 Death Don't Have No Mercy's, or some of the blues numbers and jams on the 10-68 Mickey Hart and the Hartbeats dates have nice bits. Also, Jerry does some nice things in the second half of the Nobody's Spoonful Jam bonus track on the Aoxomoxoa CD.

Something closer to that 1973 date is the jam out of Truckin' on 6-16-74, included on the bonus disc of RT 2/3, but I think still available on BT sites. While it gets increasingly out there, the underlying changes are blues for the whole 12 minutes of the jam, and it's followed by worthy versions of Wharf Rat and GDTRFB.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 23, 2012 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

For me it's the smokey 2/8/70 performance of Smokestack...

http://archive.org/details/gd70-02-08.sbd-aud.cotsman.19152.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 23, 2012 8:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Smoky, nothing--that climax is like a bottle of whiskey cracked upside yo head! I also love how in the early part Jerry totally escapes the dodecaphonic tyranny of frets and bends his way through the whole continuum of pitches between each note. I've been meaning to have another listen to that bonus track off the Bear's Choice CD for a while now, so thanks!

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Poster: Skobud Date: Mar 24, 2012 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Shit, look no further than Katie Mae off Bears Choice for rawness. I think Hurts Me Too off 4/29/71 is a prime example of down and dirty pig blues.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Mar 23, 2012 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

how about 1966-02-25?

schoolgirl > you dont love me > schoolgirl. idk about dirty, but its some well done blues.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 23, 2012 8:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Actually, I gave that another listen last night before posting, and was surprised by how not-raw it is. For the first several minutes in particular, Jerry sounds kind of tentative, and even when he finds his groove, it's still way more civilized than I'm looking for.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Mar 24, 2012 12:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

right on. just some good ol blues.

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Poster: Taper_Mike Date: Mar 24, 2012 1:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Well, you could always start with DEATH DON'T HAVE NO MERCY from 1970's LIVE DEAD. All the concert sources for that album used to be available here. Now you can get some of it on FILLMORE WEST 1969: COMPLETE RECORDINGS. It is some of the best early live stuff you will ever hear.

Also early on, Pigpen must have made some great blues contributions. Someone help me out.

And don't forget Bobby's Chess covers from the 80s. He was playing some good slide on songs like LITTLE RED ROOSTER.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 23, 2012 4:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Good Morning Little Schoolgirl always had an oily, dangerous edge to it as it oozed along. I'll take the '68 versions. Pig in his '68 regalia, a bottle of SC in hand (want some you pretty lil' thing), and "I don't care if you are 13 years of age!" Yeah, low-down and dirty.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 23, 2012 5:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Any 68's particularly stand out for you?

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 23, 2012 6:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

2-2-68 is intense even for '68.
3-29-68
I always liked the one from Two From The Vault (8-23,24-68).
Even though the beginning is clipped, 10-20-68.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 24, 2012 5:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Does "One Kind Favor" count as blues?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZZSdhz9GrI

I didn't pick this one out particularly, 'cus I have really slow internet again, but just grabbed the first one on youtube ...

Also, tho I know it garners scorn hereabouts, I like Bob doing Walkin' Blues. The one on Without a Net is very nice.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Mar 24, 2012 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What are the best examples of the Grateful Dead playing low-down, dirty, back-alley blues?

Nice thread! Here are some of my favorite examples of what I think you're looking for:


2/12/67 Smokestack > King Bee
11/11/67 Death Don't and Schoolgirl
6/18/67 Viola
2/15/69 Caution
5/11/72 Caution > Who Do You Love > Truckin'